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CMSN - Koopaling Orphanage by tran4of3 CMSN - Koopaling Orphanage by tran4of3
Commission by jurassicstrain!

We share a common issue with a recent tidbit of news from Nintendo, and Miyamoto himself, stating that the Koopa Kids - most popular from Mario 3, the cartoons, and the more recent New Super Mario series - are actually not Bowser's kids at all. [link] It's a niggling point because it comes out years after it's been more than popularly established, takes away a significant aspect from the characters, doesn't substitute anything in its place, and, to top it off, Miyamoto doesn't care about story, so him pointing this out means nothing to him, and yet so much to the fans of the characters. Worst case scenario, it's simply to prop up Bowser Jr. over the Koopalings, who, while he has his moments, is still pretty much the Scrappy Doo of all Mario characters (or if you like Scrappy, more like the Poochie of Simpsons).

So this picture is pretty much a fanwanking of the situation. Even if the Koopalings aren't Bowser's biological kids, they might as well be - the perfect, little psychotic bunch of crazies for the King of the Koopas.

But it's all a moot point anyway because we all know how the Koopa Kids came about fo' rizzle. [link]
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:icondracophobos:
DracoPhobos Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
It's a hard knock life
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:iconesmeebeek:
EsmeeBeek Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014
LOL Bowser's reaction! XD
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BowserShonKoopa Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2014
Ohhhh... NOW I Understand :)
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LinkDeHero Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Explains Morton Koopa Jr... JUNIOR. How come I am the only one who when they first saw Morton Koopa Jr thought, "That's not Bowser's kid!"
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PrincessAurorus Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I agree with adopting the kids. Since I agreed in the Mario Wikia instead of the Super Mario Wiki because it means that they've been adopted. I also agreed in the manuel, too.
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LadyDragonair2 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2013
An that's how Bowser got his koopalings.
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:iconvyel:
Vyel Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Miyamoto ruined everything. Nice concept though.
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:icontoxicisland:
ToxicIsland Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2013
The Koopalings weren't even meant to be Bowser's children in Japan.
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wookywok Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2014
Then what explains the SMB3 manual saying that they ARE bowser's kids?
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:icontoxicisland:
ToxicIsland Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2014
It's a translation error.
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:iconvyel:
Vyel Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't care.
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:iconv-pal97:
V-pal97 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Student General Artist
Lol that's pretty cute :). Great job :)
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Elzathehedgehog Featured By Owner May 31, 2013
This Drawing is Awesome, Wendy's Dress looks Nice :)
and as for Miyamoto saying that they aren't his kids well...to me they'll all ways be his kids and I happen to like both Koopalings and Bowser Jr. and any way keep up the awesome job by the way :)
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Elzathehedgehog Featured By Owner May 31, 2013
This Drawing is Awesome, Wendy's Dress looks Nice :)
and as for Miyamoto saying that they aren't his kids well...to me they'll all ways be his kids and I happen to like both Koopalings and Bowser Jr. and any way keep up the awesome job by the way :)
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Snakeman2013 Featured By Owner May 18, 2013   General Artist
this makes sense
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lilangelmama Featured By Owner May 16, 2013
LOL, aww, it's so messed up an cute at the same time
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:iconblueinfernotigon:
BlueInfernoTigon Featured By Owner May 3, 2013
Thing is, the Koopalings were really never stated to be his kids in the first place, they were stated be Bowser's minions[this is still true for some countries outside NA]. (Heck, they didn't even have names when they first came out in Japan.) When the games crossed overseas, that's when the "canon" of them being his kids started, along with them getting names. (Plus the shows were made in America, not Japan) It's really not foreign for information to get edited when crossed over to other countries, but I understand why some people were shocked at the news.

Even though they're not blood-related to Bowser, that can still be his kids. You can just easily say they're adopted[or follow your personal beliefs]. :P
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Shidyk Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
It would explain so much. :XD:
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Midnight-Tea Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Another thought came up for me. Why is adoption any less beautiful? If was assume "adopted" is a pejorative, it follows to some very uncomfortable conclusions and political positions.

Heck, that Bowser went out of his way to pick up the Koopa kids actually speaks to a soft and sentimental side to Bowser we don't see much (aside from the obvious manpower upgrade they offer his army). Whereas if Bowser Jr. is his biological kid, well, biology can compel even the worst of us to bring up a spawn and continue the gene line.

Again, sorry if my overthinking it is annoying you.
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KoopaKid17 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2013
Saying the Koopalings aren't Bowser's children is like saying Scott Evil isn't Dr. Evil's son. :roll:
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ProfessM Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I never got why everyone loved the Koopa kids. They felt kinda bland and boring while at least Bowser Jr while a pain was at least filled with some personality. I always thought the kids where just an example of Bowser being really lame villain giving random kids command of his forces thinking that it would stop Mario. This image kinda cements my old theory of Bowser randomly picking generals for his forces but I still love it.
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paulscott Featured By Owner May 26, 2013
I wouldn't say he randomly picked generals, if you look at everything else in the mushroom kingdom he picked pretty well.

You need to remember that Mario is from another world, so may as well be considered the Cthulhu of the Mario universe.
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ProfessM Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I get where you are coming from. I still see it as random myself but hey they are better bosses then just fighting Bowser at the end of each stage.
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SoldadoWolfy Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Haha, so funny!!
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sonicandmario826 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2013
well at least ther're still around and fighting mario and they didn't just disapear. I will admit I liked them being his children,but from what I heard in Japan they never were his kids so I guess it sort of like in sonic eggman/robotnick thing. I like Bowser Jr. he has some pretty funny moments and he has some fun boss battles to.
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MeepyMaybelle Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
But I like Poochy. :<


I-I mean, I'll gladly accept this as an alternative origin!
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:iconcoyotey:
Coyotey Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2013
"Before I was just gonna eat 'em, but NOW..."
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:iconether101:
Ether101 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
Now you know how this Zelda fan feel about OoT, TP, SS and HH.
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LightsolPhoenix Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013
What, that it utterly trashed the mythos of the series in favor of a much lamer concept, and then shoehorned the first few games in the series into that history, even though they don't fit?

They can explain it as many times as they want, they can claim it all "works", but the fact is there is NO WAY the first three games (especially LttP) work in the new "improved" History of Hyrule as written by Ocarina Of Time. And before anyone says "Well, the Imprisoning War in LttP clearly references OoT", I have the Hyrule Historia from Nintendo, and no, they don't claim that at all. Apparently, the Imprisoning War happens years after OoT and involves a different set of Sages).
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leviadragon99 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
Huh... this actually makes a fair bit of sense...
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Salem-the-Psychic Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
Umber: Master has good taste, they are quite destructive
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Dracos123 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
Fo' rizzle!

Rock on, Ian :) Rock on.
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aceina Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
you sir are the greatest artist who ever lived
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TheDJTC Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
Yeah BJ is pretty much Scrappy-doo. A smaller version of the more popular character with no real purpose.

Still like both of them, just wouldn't mind if they wern't relevant.

Same with Toadstool, I have no idea why she exists.
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ToxicIsland Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
Now just imagine the Koopalings in this restraunt, [link] with all the characters in this pictures discription.
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Chaos-force Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
Its just so perfect,it works so darn well! great job and concept!
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Sousui-Ookami Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
I like your version of events the most Ian. I am just going to take them as canon that Miyamoto doesn't know about.
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ghostlychickenfetus Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
My research in the lore of the mario world universe indicates that when a baby is born into the world they are carried by the stork and he takes them to theyre parents so chances are bowser either wished to have children and he's wish was granted or the koopalings are adopted which is also possible do to the fact that koopas are a species thats diverse in apearance and skills just look at hammer bro's or sumo bro's koopas as an example.
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Midnight-Tea Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Wait, Mario characters have anything resembling internal consistency? I was under the impression that noawadays they're whatever any game needs them to be at the time. Bowser characterization is usually the first on the chopping block, too, whenever something cute or kid friendly is released. Remember back when he had an actual army with tanks and airships and stuff, ready to roll on the Mushroom Kingdom and declare martial law?

Far from detracting from the cute feel of the Mario setting, I always felt that intense element made it better as a contrast. But maybe I just want a different series than Miyamoto did, and in the end he's the final arbiter.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
Ditto. I politely acknowledge the word of the games' creator as is the polite thing to do. But I also feel that it ADDS MORE to the story-world by them being his biological children rather than the other way around.
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Midnight-Tea Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't want to be rude or butt in, but I'd really like to hear what exactly it adds. Both you and :icontran4of3: have said it does but I'm not sure if I agree or disagree.
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
I feel that after a decade of them existing, that it comes across as a brush off. A house cleaning. Something to marginalize them. And since we have no clue who Jr's mother is (assuming he isn't just a clone), it really feels like a complication where there doesn't need to be one.
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Midnight-Tea Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's possible this was canon from day one, just that Miyamoto never said a word. It seems like the guy barely has a postcard relationship to the rest of earth on some days. As I suggested in my more direct comment, it feels like a lot of Bowser has been trimmed over the years.
Consider that the game that introduced the koopalings also introduced the idea that Bowser's army is a serious force to be reckoned with, complete with a fleet of tanks and a flying armada armed with actual honest to goodness cannons. Not bullet bills, no cute cartoon eyes, just live ammunition and no-nonsense soundtrack. [link]
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alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
And?
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:iconmidnight-tea:
Midnight-Tea Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
(Also, what DOES Bowser being a biological father add to the story exactly that them being adopted would take away? Maybe I was being too subtle but I'm still waiting on an answer if you or ~tran4of3 have one)
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Midnight-Tea Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
My point is complaining about the presentation of the koopalings at this point is like complaining about an ash stain on the rug while the restaurant around it is already a smoldering collapsed wreck.
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:iconalexwarlorn:
alexwarlorn Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
It's just an opinion.
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:iconmidnight-tea:
Midnight-Tea Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Right. So I felt it worth my time to point out that it's not just a few berries, but possibly the whole vine is quite rotten by this point.

But I can see I'm just annoying you so I'll leave you be. Sorry.
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